DION POUNCIL | From Pouncil Capital & moneyskool.com

Dion Pouncil believes that energy management, managing your thoughts, managing your words, managing your actions, managing your emotions, and acquiring knowledge are the keys to becoming wealthier. Being a sponge for data. Being a consistent winner, having more than you spend, comes from the repetition of principles. That's why certain athletes, when they get in business and they do learn, become successful because the same skill sets that it took them to become the professional level athletes can apply. Patience, self-control, discipline, work ethic, dedication and perseverance.

One of my favourite parts of this interview is when Dion said "listen to the words". This means that even though you may not understand the language of investing, by constantly "listening to the words', the language will become clear and you will begin to understand what's happening and how you can become a better investor.

Dion is a student of life, husband, father, teacher and licensed financial service professional. His broad experiences in life have helped him to focus on the priorities of his mission: to help over 75 million people improve their lives through trading and financial education. He is Principal & Chief Investment Officer of Pouncil Capital (a systematic hedge fund) and lead instructor at MoneySkool.com. (a financial education streaming app).

Pouncil Capital partners with institutional investors and high-net-worth individuals to produce absolute risk adjusted performance returns.

MoneySkool.com teaches everyday people about mindset and creating generational wealth with simple to use, beautifully designed, and easy to understand content on investing, trading, Stocks, Options, Futures, Bonds, Forex, and Crypto.

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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

Chloe (1s):
Stocks for Beginners.

Dion (4s):
Well, first and foremost, I believe that one of my favorite quotes is whether you believe you can, or whether you believe you can't, you are right. So for me, it starts with belief. It starts with faith. And if you believe that you can do something, you're going to find a way, or are you going to make one. Period. Everything else in the universe is going to get out of your way, because you are determined that your focus and the right things will be attracted to you.

Phil (27s):
Hi, and welcome back to Stocks for Beginners. I'm Phil Muscatello. How do you learn about financial systems? What are the best ways to build your knowledge so that you can approach markets with confidence? My guest today is dedicated to helping people improve their lives through financial education. Hello Dion.

Dion (45s):
Hey, how's it going? Thank you for having me.

Phil (47s):
Thanks for coming on. Dion. Dion Pouncil is the principal and chief investment officer of Pouncil Capital, a systematic hedge fund and lead instructor at money, school.com. So Dion, tell us a bit about your background.

Dion (60s):
Yeah, so actually finance is not my traditional background from the south side of Chicago. I went to school in New York, actually played a little bit of a high school college in independent professional baseball and transitioned into technology and technology led me to finance. And so now I am a systematic hedge fund manager. I am a licensed Series 3 commodity pool operator and commodity trading advisor, but all of that literally was started from the ground up. Literally read some books, took some courses, watched some videos, believed that I could do it and just bet on myself. So I really, really, really, truly believe that you could do anything you put your mind to and, and put those things in actions.

Dion (1m 45s):
And so, yeah. So now I'm the chief investment officer and principal for Pouncil Capital, which is the systematic hedge fund. And then moneyskool is the app and course platform that I created to be able to teach people, you know, literally what I've learned that was, you know, tools to change my life and my family's future.

Phil (2m 5s):
So what was the first trigger? What was the first trigger that went off in your head to start thinking about investing?

Dion (2m 11s):
Think about investing or thinking about making money?

Phil (2m 14s):
It's a bit of both really isn't it?

Dion (2m 16s):
Well, I'm asking because I grew up in a very rough neighborhood. I grew up on the south side of Chicago and Inglewood. I grew up in a single parent home, so struggles were real early. And so, you know, once I, and literally my mother, my mother taught me how to count with literally dollar bills. So money has always paid an interesting role in my life because I learned how to count. I love math, I love science. So I learned how to count with money. And then I've realized very early that we didn't necessarily have a lot of money and we couldn't really live certain lifestyles. And we struggled a lot, not a lot, but we struggled with some things around, you know, certain times in life.

Dion (3m 1s):
And I never wanted to experience those again. And I never wanted to make, I'm never one of my family or my children or my bloodline to experience. So I started noticing what people would do, people who had money, people who didn't have money. And, and in sixth grade I joined an AAU team and one of my teammate's dad was the coach and they had a 49 room mansion in Hyde park in Chicago, literally on 48th. And I lived on 65th. Okay. So they were 17 blocks away. We lived in a one bedroom basement apartment with four people and they lived in a 49 room mansion.

Dion (3m 45s):
So I knew relatively early that, Hey, there are levels. And he knew he was a lawyer and he was an investor. Yeah. I got exposed to different levels of money early. And I knew which one I wanted. Yeah. I wanted to, you know, aspire to have.

Phil (4m 0s):
Okay, well, let's talk for a moment about your baseball career, because I think, and I have spoken to ex athletes on this podcast before, and a lot of them have realized some of these athletes earn a very good amount of money in a very short period of time and then blow it. Have you seen that in the baseball career? And you've obviously avoided this as well?

Dion (4m 22s):
No. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's a real thing. Unfortunately, I think overall the community is getting better and is more informed and more educated. But I think again, a lot of these professional athletes come from underprivileged, underserved communities and a lot of people in the world, not just an underprivileged and underserved communities don't know about money, but everybody, the majority of people, if you take the world, it's about 7.7 billion people on the planet now. And about 7.6 billion of them don't know anything about money.

Dion (5m 2s):
And I was, I was one of those people as well, growing up now, personally, I believe that a lot of that is done strategically and on purpose by the 1% who owns everything and stays in control and all of that. And, you know, I don't just say that begrudingly. Like early 1920s Rothchild donated about $500 million to the United States education system. And a reporter said, Hey, why did you donate so much money to the education system? And Rothschild said it was Rothschild or Rockefeller. So whichever one knows ours.

Phil (5m 33s):
Definitely.

Dion (5m 35s):
He said, because we want a nation of workers, not a nation of thinkers. So literally the education program system is created to build more employees to build workers. And so the people who, you know, traditionally at those times were capitalists and money makers. They didn't want other people making money and doing X, Y, and Z. They want other people working for them to make them more money. Right. So that's done strategically. And then when you talk about the athletes, again, like a lot of these athletes, you had to lock in on your sport in your profession to be in reach the levels that you did. And sometimes, unfortunately you avoid those other classes or things that you needed to learn and understand.

Dion (6m 21s):
And so just because you're 18 or 18 to 25 or 18 to 40 or whatever, and you come into this big lump sum of money, doesn't mean you're going to magically get money management skills with them. Right. And if you've never had that amount of money and you don't know what to do with it, you think that it's always going to be there and it's always going to last and it's going to just magically stick around. And so, you know, it's a combination of those things. And so I think also the, the leagues are doing more to help them be informed and to be educated and having programs and having speakers and having things to be able to put in place that they don't blow through their money. Right.

Dion (7m 1s):
And then information is now just more accessible as a lot of stuff online, you got courses like mine, you got podcasts like yours, you have books. And you know, honestly now is really no excuse.

Phil (7m 13s):
You mentioned about underserved communities. Do you find that the people that you're talking to and the purpose, the kind of people that you're helping are from those underserved communities to a certain extent?

Dion (7m 23s):
Yeah, I think naturally right now, so I got about 7,000 students in my pro various programs and naturally people are attracted to comfort and what they like and what they know and people who look like them. So I think naturally, yes, and then my story, I'm very real and very authentic. And I'm very open when I share it. And that resonates with a certain type of person or a certain person who's had similar upbringings or experiences and things like that. But also I have students all around the world. So, you know, from various backgrounds and I have students who literally, you know, relatively come from money and they still didn't know how to do some of these things. Right.

Dion (8m 2s):
Because again, just because you have money don't mean, you know how to manage it. It doesn't mean that, you know, risk management doesn't mean, you know how to put your money to work for you, or it doesn't even mean that your family or your people, or you major money this way. Right? And so it's a different skillset. And so it's important and that's a different mindset because I'm very big on mindset and a very big on approach.

Phil (8m 26s):
Tell us about that mindset. What is the mindset that's required to earn money in markets?

Dion (8m 31s):
Well, first and foremost, I believe that one of my favorite quotes is whether you believe you can, or whether you believe you can't, you are right. So for me, it starts with belief. It starts with faith. And if you believe that you could do something, you're going to find a way, or are you going to make one. Period. Everything else in the universe is going to get out of your way, because you are determined that you are focus and the right things will be attracted to you. So for that, you know, belief, second, you have to have some patience. Self-control discipline because if you don't control your energy and you don't control your emotions, you can't control your money because you're going to be swayed too far, right. Too far left too, too emotional, too happy, too sad.

Dion (9m 12s):
And those things will, your money will be fleeting, right? So energy management. So I would say first mindset, second, I would say energy management and managing your thoughts, managing your words, managing your actions, managing your emotions, and then knowledge. Being a sponge acquiring data, right? You can look into some things occasionally, but being consistent, consistent winner, consistently profitable, consistently, having more than you spend, having those things come from the repetition of those principles. And so you have to take those things. And that's why that's why certain athletes, when they get in business and they do learn, they actually do become successful because the same skill sets that it took them to become the professional level athlete that they did, they can apply those right patience, self-control discipline, work ethic, dedication, perseverance.

Dion (10m 9s):
Those things are transferrable to any industry. And if you apply them, the, the odds should be in your favor.

Phil (10m 20s):
So I've been watching some of your morning videos on Instagram, and it's really interesting. So first of all, the way that you're talking about it is very clear for people. And you're talking about technical analysis, what's known as technical analysis. What's what in your view is technical analysis.

Dion (10m 39s):
Yeah. It was simply using math and or visual indicators to scan the markets for you or faster than you could and give out mathematical summaries. So that's kind of a more technical analysis of technical analysis.

Phil (10m 59s):
It was simply like those charts, isn't it, you see those charts with all the, the red and green squiggles all over it. Yeah.

Dion (11m 4s):
Yeah. So, and those are good and they can be impactful and resourceful, but then they can also be overwhelming. Cause you can look at somebody's chart and they had like 62 lines in 14 different indicators. And then you end up getting a analysis paralysis and don't ever actually end up making a trade, which is why I kind of simplify things with the money school algorithm. But you have fundamental investors. Okay. So we'll, let's, let's backtrack. So first and foremost, there's a difference between investing and trading. And a lot of people don't know that a lot of people don't understand that investing, when you think investing, you should think bigger picture long-term, you should think one year or longer for your desired return on investment time horizon. Meaning if I put a dollar in here today, the shortest amount of time that I am expecting to get a return on that investment would be 366 days or longer.

Dion (11m 54s):
Okay. And the reason I say 366 days, especially because in America at 366, that becomes a long-term asset and it becomes a long-term holdk. And literally you can avoid up to 40% capital gains tax just by holding it one year and one day. Okay. So that's investing, investing is long-term. When you think about trading, then you can think about short term, okay. I put this dollar in and I am expecting the money from 365 days or shorter. And so then you can break down your approach, right? So the approach is I'm investing or I'm training. That's a personal decision based off of where you are in your money journey and what time horizon you are expecting your return on investment.

Dion (12m 35s):
Once you understand that, then you can say, okay, how am I going to evaluate the opportunity that I'm considering? And that's where the fundamental analysis versus the technical analysis versus the quantitative analysis versus the statistical analysis. Right? So we have these different thought groups and they've they've become popular because certain people have had success following those strategies and those approaches, okay. Most famous, fundamental investor and analysis guy on the planet. It was probably Warren Buffett, him and Charlie Munger, right? The biggest quantitative and probably the most successful investor of all time is Jim Simons.

Dion (13m 16s):
He's a Quant, he was a former mathematician and physicist for MIT. He also worked at the NSA creating code cracking algorithms. And then he created Renaissance technology, which is the most successful. Hedge Fund, the most successful return on investments of all time, he's produced about over 30% returns for like 30 years in a row. Right? And so over time, the math pretty much wins. And some people choose to do the math themselves through fundamental analysis and research. And some people usually choose to use computers and technical analysis. I'm one of those people. I like to say that my approach really is kind of like quantamental.

Dion (13m 56s):
I want to get fundamental stuff to, to understand the overall approaches that I want to take. And then I want to use technical and statistical and quantitative analysis to speed that process up. Right? Because for me, what I've learned is that math wins computers can move faster than we, they can move more efficiently. They don't get tired, they don't get hungry. They don't have kids. They don't have relationship problems. They don't have to travel and they don't get phone calls. They don't get text messages. They don't get Instagram alerts. And so I study the greats and I don't have emotions and I don't have emotions. Right. And so I studied the greats when I played baseball, Derek Jeter's my favorite player. I wanted to play shortstop.

Dion (14m 36s):
I played shortstop all the way through college, right? Because I'd studied the greats and I want it to be great. And I mimic what they did now that I'm in finance. And I run a hedge fund. I study Jim Simons. I want Pouncil Capital to be at and or greater than Renaissance technology. And so he was a quantitative trader. And as I began to get into the industry years ago, I ran and I studied and I began to mirror my game, quote unquote, after him. And so now bringing, manifesting those things to life. Literally now I am a licensed hedge fund manager and I choose to run a systematic hedge fund. And so I think, you know, everything is a personal journey, a personal journey, a personal choice and trading and investing is personal.

Dion (15m 19s):
And so you need to know what you like, what you're comfortable with and what operates, you know, that you are able to emotionally control and manage and things that you can have some success in,

Phil (15m 31s):
In one of the videos that I saw you speaking about, you were very keen on talking about the candle. What, what is the candle? And what's being shown in a candle.

Dion (15m 41s):
Yeah. So I'm very passionate about talking about candles and candlesticks things because there's a lot of stuff on the internet. And honestly, it's a lot of shit, excuse my language,

Phil (15m 52s):
A problem.

Dion (15m 53s):
Okay. And so what happens is you get all of these people online and it's information overload. And some people have maybe had a couple of things of success here and there, which is okay, is shout out to them, people for that. But over time, the math doesn't line up. Okay. First and foremost, the chart and the candlestick is literally, this is not a Dion thing. This is a fact it's just a visual representation of what's going on in the order book. Some people call it the order book. Some people call it the ticker tape. Some people call it the time of sales window, no matter what you call it.

Dion (16m 34s):
It's the, it's the ledger that takes a record of the buys and sales for that particular asset. That is it. That is all a candle stick is okay, unless you have other custom calculations in there like we do, but that's all candlestick 1 0 1 is if it opens and more buyers than sellers is going to be green, if it opens and it's more sellers than buyers is going to be red. Now, when people start talking about all of these chart patterns and head and shoulders and bottoms and tops and inverting, blah, blah, unfortunately the data, the numbers, the math does not support all of that stuff.

Dion (17m 14s):
And for me, I like to stick to the data, things that I can prove, things that I can do the same thing over and over and over and get the same result. And then I can give it to you and you could test it and do the same exact way, the same thing over and over and over and get the same result. Now, when you apply that math to the markets, are you always going to be correct? Are you always going to win? No, but it gives you a higher probability of success. And that is the game you are playing. If you do not have trade preparation, if you do not have a mathematical based strategy and you do not stick to that plan or rule, the chances of you being successful may consistently successful are low.

Dion (17m 55s):
And I just like to keep it very, very real with people, whether they end up joining money school or not, whether they become an investor in Pouncil Capital or not, I just going to give it to them for what it really is. And I don't sell dreams. So

Phil (18m 8s):
That's great. You don't sell dreams because that's what happens with a lot of people. They're approaching the markets and they've got this head full of ideas, crazy ideas that they're going to make money, but it's not that easy. Is it?

Dion (18m 17s):
Yeah, they're gambling. That's why they're in, they're programmed in, they're used to putting it all on black or pulling the slot machine and hoping for the jackpot or going to the corner store and buying a lottery ticket and hoping to hit the jackpot. True trade and invest does work like that. Especially now you as a human, especially with lack of information going up against these algorithms or going against one of my algorithms or one of my systems, you're going to get cooked every time you might not win ever. Right? So, and then they will find something or somebody else to blame. But what I encourage is slow the game down, go at your own pace.

Dion (19m 4s):
Read, study, get informed, practice, start small build and grow. And from there you might have a recipe for success.

Phil (19m 13s):
You invest in futures markets, mainly what is a futures and which instruments are you looking at?

Dion (19m 20s):
Yeah. So I primarily trade futures,

Phil (19m 24s):
Trade futures and their contracts as well. Sorry, I shouldn't say

Dion (19m 27s):
Yes. A futures contract. So for the newbie listeners, let's break it down for a couple of asset classes you have. When you talk about the capital markets, you have stocks, you have bonds, you have options, you have futures, Forex, you have crypto. Those are the, those are the most popular asset classes. Inside of each of those asset classes you have different types of instruments. So for stocks, what a stock market, you have different stocks. Those are the companies who go public that you could buy equity in their company. For options those are derivatives that are based off of the underlying asset that could potentially be a stock.

Dion (20m 9s):
So you could buy contract that you say, Hey, I have the option to convert this into shares, or I have the option to sell this contract. Next, you have futures. Futures are contracts that you buy based off of today's price action. Would you believe will have an impact on the future result of that price, but you can get paid on it today and it trades or invest for commodities traditionally. So agricultural wheat, water, oil, gold, et cetera. Then you have Forex, which is also known as foreign exchange. So foreign exchange is actually the largest market on the planet.

Dion (20m 50s):
Every time you spend a dollar in another country, or you exchange your money for another dollar, that's literally the foreign exchange market. So the United States dollar, the Australian dollar to Japanese Yan, you know, things of that nature. And then now with the digital revolution, you have cryptocurrencies where you have different coins and digital assets. So those are kind of the most popular assets. And then you have bonds, which are literally, you become the giver of the money and you become the creditor and now they have to pay you back. Okay? So those are the most popular. Now I trade them all and I invest in stock, but I primarily trade futures because that was one of the first asset classes that I learned. And the courses that I took and fell in love with it also because there's futures platform that I trade on that I teach.

Dion (21m 35s):
You can start with a relatively low amount. You could literally open up a futures brokerage account at this particular brokerage for $400. You could trade the asset class that I teach for just $500. You just need to put $500 in your account. And, and one contract of this particular asset class costs $1 and 25 cents or the other asset class that I teach costs $15 and 62 cents. Those things are very affordable for the average person. And then it allows you to produce daily, weekly, and monthly income because those brokerages pay out same day. So now you can literally begin to change your life.

Dion (22m 15s):
If you just made $50 a day, there's 252 trading days in a year, right? If you just made $200 a day, we $48,000 a year, that's literally more than the S almost twice the American average income. So you don't. And I, and I teach people this way because you don't have to have hundreds of thousands and millions of billions of dollars to go in and trade and invest because that's one of the obstacles people face mentally like, oh, I can't afford to do that. Trading and investing is only for rich people and wealthy people know, well, I'm here to dispel that that's not the truth and I can show you and I've lived it and I've done it.

Phil (22m 57s):
That's the thing we've talked about. We've kind of touched on a couple of times in our conversation is the kind of ideas people have about investing when they approach the markets. Are there any other mistaken views that people approach the markets with that you've noticed?

Dion (23m 12s):
Well, there's natural ignorance and they're selective ignorance, right? So some people just genuinely don't know and they don't know that they don't know. And then there's people who don't know, but then they, because they choose not to know, oh, I don't want to learn about that. I don't care about that. It's not for me. So when you make those choices, then that's on you. Right? So understanding those two different things. First, first and foremost, a lot of people deal with a lack of self motivation, right? Some people deal with a lot of a lack of self-esteem and a lack of self-confidence. So no matter what it is, they already start out from a place of negativity, not thinking that they can do it or be successful in it. So you have to fight against those yourself as a person.

Dion (23m 54s):
And once you get past those, then you need to say, okay, well, what is going to get me from point a to point B in most of the time, you're going to have to learn about a, and you'll have to learn about B, and you're gonna have to learn about how to get from a to B, right? And then the next thing that comes to practice, you gotta practice. You gotta put in the work. I did not become a professional baseball player by just thinking about it. I had to actually get out there and do it. I had to actually end up working. I had to actually take ground balls and I had to actually compete. And I had to actually beat people for a spot to be a starter. And I had to actually rise through the ranks, same thing in the business world, same thing in the trading world. I had to think about it.

Dion (24m 35s):
And then I had to read some books and then I had to take some courses. Then I had to practice and I had to put some money up. I started my first trading account of $1,500. I grew it to $3,000. In two weeks. I blew through the whole $3,000. I put $3,000 in there. I grew it to $7,000. In two weeks. I blew through the whole $7,000. I put $5,000 in there. I grew it to $10,000 and I've never looked back, but each one of those trade and each one of those experiences, I had to learn from it. And I had to, you know, acknowledge what went wrong. Where did I mess up? How can I get better optimize?

Dion (25m 15s):
And I had to be real with myself. That's the other thing, people, a lot of themselves, everybody lies to themselves sometimes, but it's when you start believing the lie, that's when it get dangerous. Right?

Phil (25m 26s):
So when people come to meet you for the first time going to money school, or to Pouncil Capital, what should they expect apart from a really great guy with a lot of very good information and a clear way of explaining things, I must say,

Dion (25m 40s):
Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. So first and foremost, know that I put my heart and soul into this for it and for the people, because I'm very passionate about everything that I do. And I truly believe that this is a part of my mission and I have made it my life's mission. So I do give it my best and in both in Pouncil Capital and in money school for Pouncil Capital, there are certain limitations because legally through, you know, sec, and because I'm licensed and all that, you have to be an accredited investor in a QEP. And you also have to have a minimum of a hundred thousand dollars or a minimum of a million to invest into my fund. So I know that everybody doesn't meet those requirements and there are ways that I can help, but I knew that.

Dion (26m 22s):
And so I want to create lanes to where no matter where you are in your journey, you can learn and start and you could grow to those levels. So you get something that is a value to where you are. You could literally know nothing about money and you could literally go into money school and start in the money, school, financial dictionary. And literally just start to the words, right? You could literally just watch the key topic, explainer videos, and literally whiteboard explainer form. Listen to a story. As a visually tells you about that financial topic. You could take bite-sized courses where the courses are literally only like 15 minutes to an hour where you learn specifically stocks for investing for beginners or dividends for beginners, right?

Dion (27m 10s):
And then I'm big on energy. So we have money affirmation, videos that literally speak positivity into your spirit and tell you, you know, Hey, I am a money magnet, right? I deserve wealth. I believe I should be wealthy, et cetera. Right. And that starts to shift your mindset. So you get those things in money school, because I don't come from any of those things. And I know that at different points of my journey, those things had a direct impact on me. And I, if I had a me, when I was in those places, oh my Lord. I probably would be a billionaire by now. Right. But, you know, so I wanted to create things for people that were real and that were practical, that they could actually start putting real things in place to start seeing real opportunities and real change.

Phil (28m 2s):
And you have a mission to reach 75 million people. Why seventy-five million? Why that?

Dion (28m 8s):
Yeah, I was in the hospital last year for about four weeks and almost died. I was in intensive care for about two weeks. And one of those nights, the doctor came in and said, Hey, call your family, get to things in order. You might not make it through tonight. And so I'm really big on energy. I rebuke that didn't receive that energy. And then I started to just channel my energy on health and focusing on getting out of there. And so I literally convinced them to let me walk to the restroom because my had blood clots in my lungs and my lungs was collapsing and I couldn't walk. I could barely talk, but I would literally go to the restroom and I would look in the mirror and I would speak life over myself. And I would say, Dion, I love you. You will beat this. You will overcome, this is not the end of your journey.

Dion (28m 50s):
And not only that you're going to use this because traditionally I'm more of a private person. Like if you look before I launched my new school, if you look on my social media, I rarely ever post, but now I'm posting every day because I'll literally be like, you know, what is bigger than me? And I'm doing this for the people. So when I was like, you know what, I'm going to use this as a testimony to be able to help other people change their lives. And I want to make the world a better place. So that, that sounds very utopian and very like, you know, woo. But I'm a data guy. So literally I took a picture and then I looked up how many people were on the planet? It was approximately 7.5 billion people. And I said, okay, well, let's make the world 1% better.

Dion (29m 31s):
And 1% of 70.5 billion is 75 million. So that's where I get that number from. And right now I've got about 7,000 students in my program. So 7,000

4 (29m 42s):
Oh 7.5 or was that

Dion (29m 47s):
15 million. So we're at about 0.01%.

Phil (29m 53s):
I love the way you can still do the math in your heads. So if I'm someone listening to this podcast wants to learn more about money school, where should they go? And more importantly, what should they be expecting and start thinking about in their heads? Cause I love the way that you said you got to listen to the words, even if you don't understand the words, I'm assuming that what you're saying is even if you don't understand the words you need to leave.

Dion (30m 19s):
Yeah. When you were a kid and you were a baby, you didn't know how to talk yet. You were just listening to people talking and you picked up on it and eventually you got it. Right? Same thing. All we all learned through pattern recognition. It's the same, same, same principles, money, school, money, school.com, M O N E Y S K O O l.com. Think of it as Netflix with a trading school, right? So you could literally download it on your phone, download it on your tablet, go to it on your browser. You could literally pull it up. An apple TV, Roku, smart TVs, Amazon fire stick. It's literally a streaming app for financial education trading and investing. So you can binge watch it just like you do your favorite show and learn practical things.

Dion (31m 4s):
Pouncil Capital Pouncil Capital.com. My last name P O U N C I L capital C a P I T a l.com. And anywhere on the internet, I'm pretty much just Dion Pouncil at Dion Pouncil on all my social media platform. So yes, that's it. That's where the people can find me. And I'm a real person. You can email me, text me. I mean a message me and gave me talk to everybody. So it's just vibrant.

Phil (31m 31s):
Yeah. And on Instagram they have the videos. That's where I've been watching you as at the instant.

Dion (31m 34s):
Yeah. And so, yeah, so I do a private trading room from 9:15 AM to 11:00 AM for the money schoolers and everybody that has paid that joined the tray club. And then I do a free tray club open to the public, literally on Facebook, Instagram and YouTube, and in live tray club room from 2:30 PM to 4:00 PM Eastern Monday through Friday, as long as it's not a holiday or I'm not traveling. So

Phil (32m 0s):
Dan pencil, thank you very much for coming on the podcast. It's been a real pleasure meeting you.

Dion (32m 4s):
Yeah, my pleasure. Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.

Phil (32m 7s):
If you found this podcast helpful, please tell a friend, especially if it's someone who needs to start thinking about investing for their future, you'll be helping them and helping me to keep this show on the road.

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Stocks for beginners is for information and educational purposes, only it isn't financial advice and you shouldn't buy or sell any investments based on what you've heard here. Any opinion or commentary is the view of the speaker only not stocks for beginners. This podcast doesn't replace professional advice regarding your personal financial needs circumstances or current situation.

Phil (32m 36s):
And thank you for listening to my podcast.

Stocks for Beginners is for information and educational purposes only. It isn’t financial advice, and you shouldn’t buy or sell any investments based on what you’ve heard here. Any opinion or commentary is the view of the speaker only not Stocks for Beginners. This podcast doesn’t replace professional advice regarding your personal financial needs, circumstances or current situation.